What the conversation covers

Peter and Mark Hayward unpack the business thinking behind a creative career, the transition from record label to cloud communications, and the role of sales, autonomy, and word of mouth in growth.

Key ideas

  • Why a good idea still needs a clear customer need
  • How Peter moved from the music business into telecom
  • Why autonomy can improve both retention and performance

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